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No Suitable Cars. On Account Subweight.
October 1, 2017
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I am working on a new ProTrak railroad with only a few customers, waybills, car orders, trains, and freight cars.  I cannot seem to get my cars to move to the new car orders and waybills I have set up.  When running the routine, "The Daily Summary", Update the Railroad, I noticed the following message screen flash very quickly(anyway to add a delay to these messages?) for my new waybills: "No Suitable Cars.  On Account Subweight."

Now, I know the manual does mention that the reason for some cars not moving may be related to unsuitable matches between cars available and waybill specifications.  I went back to my new waybills and confirmed that the test for cars function identified matching cars on my railroad.  But I have to believe this message is telling me that there is a problem with the weight and/or volume on the waybills and therefore no car matches are found.

I would appreciate any assistance in running this to ground and getting my cars moving.

Joe

October 3, 2017
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Here is an additional report I was able to pull after the Operations Update.Update-Report.pdf

October 4, 2017
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>>"No Suitable Cars.  On Account Subweight."<<

Joe this error message has to do (I believe) with the fact that you have defined some subdivisions on your RR but possibly not put a large enuf value in the "Max. Gross Car Weight" field under The Railroad / Subdivisions Junctions names and notes/ your subdivision name.

Another SUPER valuable part of the PTBM is Appendix L the Q&A appendix. This huge appendix is a collection of your fellow ProTrak user's questions over many years and Jim's very succinct answers.  A few answeers are out of date nd will stay so forever. Look at Q.7 on page L-175

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October 4, 2017
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Joe-SVL said
>>"No Suitable Cars.  On Account Subweight."<<

Joe this error message has to do (I believe) with the fact that you have defined some subdivisions on your RR but possibly not put a large enuf value in the "Max. Gross Car Weight" field under The Railroad / Subdivisions Junctions names and notes/ your subdivision name.

Another SUPER valuable part of the PTBM is Appendix L the Q&A appendix. This huge appendix is a collection of your fellow ProTrak user's questions over many years and Jim's very succinct answers.  A few answeers are out of date nd will stay so forever. Look at Q.7 on page L-175

Joe Bran  

Thanks Joe for the response!  I will definitely check this tonight when I get back to the house, although I have only defined one main division.  But I do need to see what I have defined for Max. Gross Car Weight.  In the meantime, I have the manual available and will review the section you outlined.  I will report back my findings.

 

Thanks again!!

October 5, 2017
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Joe,

Your suggestion did the trick.  I was limiting car movements with too low of a sub-division weight limit.  Cars are starting to move now.

One thing that I am still looking into was I didn’t see any immediate effects of the weight limit change until I modified the car data on some of my freight cars to less than the max for the division.  The subsequent movement of cars may have happened eventually, but I still want to do some experiments in that area.

More to follow, but you were a big help!

October 5, 2017
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Joe,

When I enter car data I take the data right off of the box car itself and enter that those weights in the appropriate fields in ProTrak. My max. subdivision weight is 210,000 lbs.  (I only use 40-ft cars on my layout).

I'm a little confused by the first sentence in you second para. Why don't us set your subdivision max. car weight to be larger than largest Gross weight of any car you have on the layout versus trying to adjust individual car weights? Unless you really do model a somewhat decrepit subdivision where indeed you really need to limit the cars your train(s) haul across that subdivision, in which case ProTrak is doing what it is supposed to do.  Remember not all messages are error messages, some messages are warnings telling you what happened as an alert but not an error.

Joe Brann

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October 5, 2017
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Joe,

Yep, I wasn’t very clear in my description of the issue I was seeing.  I did set my sub division weight to the max (315,000 IIRC), but then when I went back to operations I wasn’t seeing the cars being assigned to waybills right away.  So, I thought to maybe artificially adjust the car weights down thinking it might speed up waybill assignments.  In hindsight, maybe one doesn’t affect the other, but I was just trying to get things moving.  I would think that all things being equal, the program would respect the new max limit and allow any car/waybill assignments that are within that max range.  I probably should have just given time for the change to take effect.

When I get home tonight, I am going to adjust all my car weights back to the official rated weights and let the program do its thing.

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