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8:28 pm
June 14, 2015
Hi all,
I have a general question for all you North American train enthusiasts. In the early days when your prototypes operated on a single line in the days before signalling what system was in place to prevent head on collisions?
Here is Australia we adopted a British (at least I think it was British) systems that was called "Staff and Ticket" Or "Single Line safe working" I have seen it called "token", "tablet", "ball" and "key" working according to Wikipedia.
In that system there was a piece of metal (called a staff) that was handed to the driver of a train and the fact that he held the staff was permission to enter the next piece of track. You were not allowed to enter unless you held the staff in your hand. The staff was marked as being the staff for section of track between station A and station X ad normally had those station names engraved on the staff. There could have been a number of yards or station in between these two Staff stations but only a signal train was allowed in that section of track. More often than not the staff had as part of it a key that would unlock the switches that were in the section so a switching train could do their pickups and drop-offs along the way.
The exception was the "ticket" part. If a driver held the staff and showed another driver that he did in fact hold the staff then a ticket could be written that allowed the "ticket" holder to take his train in front of the staff holders train.
That was allowed to occur as often as required on the proviso that the trains had to be run in such a was as they could come to a complete stop if and when the need arouse.
After the "ticket trains" had departed then the staff holding train could travel the length of the section of track that the staff covered. However that travel was the end of any possibility for a ticketed train to now travel.
Trains waiting to go in the opposite direction HAD to wait for the staff to arrive before any movement from their end could occur. And not train could follow the staff holder train until the staff was available. I might add that this system of working is still in use in Australia in very lightly trafficked lines were the costs of automation are not seen as being viable.
Is there any equivalent systems in operation in Canada or America? If so what are they called. I would like to look up a web site or two and read about them if possible.
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Thanks
Mark
Mark,
The staff system is used in North America (US), but as far as I know, only for branchline operation. A single staff is available at a junction and whoever gets it first has exclusive use of the branch. (Please correct me with examples.)
However I believe you, Mark, are describing multiple-interlocked-staff operation.
>in the early days when your prototypes operated on a single line in the days before signalling what system was in place to prevent head on collisions?
"Time separation". Strict timetable. All trains listed, and with precisely designated meeting locations.
Later, this system evolved to allow "train order" modification of the timetable. Then further modifications allowed for non-scheduled trains and other flexibilities.
The system is called "Timetable and Train Order" T&TO operation.
Jim
(oodles of websites... some even correct.)
5:05 pm
June 14, 2015
Thanks for the info Jim. To my knowledge our lot have never did safe working using timetable and a clock. The reason I asked is because I think I have worked out an application that can do Staff & Ticket properly as it was done in the prototype. If you guys don't use it then there is no users likely in US/Canada then the user base and application rules will be only from the commonwealth countries. Britain, India, Australia etc.
Thanks for your reply.
Mark
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