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"advancing cars" - a question from John M.
December 13, 2016
8:06 am
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>Two trains serve Sarnia on the same route between TAL-Yd and SAR-Yd, the fast freight from Buffalo arrives about 2 am for the first sailing of PM#10 at about 4 am, and the second is a local turn that also serves an intermediate Yard in Chatham (CHT-Yd).  It is timed to deliver cars to/from the second sailing of the PM#10.  The problem is that cars get assigned to the FF, which can't take all of them, but they don't get re-assigned to the local later in the day which can take them.  How do I deal with this??

Having multiple trains on the same route, while perfectly OK, may require some special considerations.

Once cars are assigned to a train you have to take manual action to cause those cars to be re-assigned to another train.  The manual action is at "Exceptions".  Under "Show cars in trains".   Click on the column header (showing the train-symbol) for the train you want to remove cars from.   Then select which group of cars you want removed.

Using this action causes the cars to be immediately re-classified.  I recently added a "progress bar" to visibly display that re-classification was happening.

This action, in this case, should be taken after the first train has completed.   This will cause the program to preferentially find the later train.

          Jim

December 15, 2016
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thanks Jim,

I knew there had to be a way, I just didn't know it.  

Thanks for the help

John

December 16, 2016
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There is another (alternative) way of moving cars assigned to one train to another train.   Which may give you more control.

1.  Just before a train is reported at its last location, open the train-consist in "preview" mode.

2.  Delete the (extra) cars that you want assigned to another train.

3.  Report the first train at its final reporting location.

4a.  Open the second train's train-consist in preview mode.  Use the "Add cars" command to add the preferred cars to that train.

or....

4b.  with the first train complete, run "Yardmaster/Route cars...".   This will assign cars to the next available train (in your case, the second train on the route).

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A difference between the "Exceptions" method and the "train-consist" method is that "Exceptions" immediately re-classifies the deleted cars.   With the "Train-consist" method, cars are >not< re-classified.... (until you manually cause it to happen.)

OK?

               Jim

December 16, 2016
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Hi Jim,

i use 4b all the time and it doesn't seem to work for me in this specific case, maybe because I am doing it too early in the process.

one sample is the following:

1.  c&O Train A goes from Sarnia to Windsor, picking up cars from Chatham (destined for NYC St. Thomas). Then they are transferred to a NYC Windsor  train bound for st. Thomas.  Total trip is about 220 miles in real life.

2.  What I want is another C&O train from Sarnia to pick up these cars in Chatham and take them to Talbot Yd in St. Thomas, where they would then transfer them to the NYC Yd in St. Thomas.  Total mileage about 70 miles in real life.  Unfortunately, I had already run this train, but when I added a job extra for it, the cars were not transferred using method 1, and I couldn't get them off train one and onto 2nd train 2, even though I used your original method in the first email.

is that clear????

thanks John

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