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Narrow Gauge and ProTrak
June 23, 2015
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Mark Stafflrd
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Hi all,

 

I am investigating how I might use ProTrak to manage my (evolving) Narrow Gauge layout.

 

I think it is possible but I have some nagging question that I hope someone in ProTak land knows the answer too.

My main thing is that my prototype is small.   Each carriage can carry no more than 24620lbs or 12.32 tons which is way smaller that any option that I could identify in the options avaliable.   Likewise are the small Baldwin engines.

Has a way been found to "create" a standalone railroad that is run just like it bigger brothers using AAR codes etc?

I know that West Texas people have a "big" narrow gauge......is there lession to be learnt in that set up that is appropriate for me?

 

ANY tips of insights would be MOST welcome.

Mark Stafford

June 23, 2015
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Howdy Mark,

Indeed, the TWMRC used extensive narrow gauge on the layout, successfully modeling the prototype operations of the D&RGW narrow and standard gauge transfers. We had a series of two parallel tracks (one for standard gauge and one for narrow gauge) where narrow gauge cars were spotted next to standard gauge cars to make the transfer. We used dual gauge for the track for flexibility of use, but standard and narrow track could have been used. The narrow gauge transferred cattle, oil, and minerals to standard gauge cars and assorted items back to the narrow gauge.  ProTrak managed the transfer and it worked well.  The author of ProTrak, Jim Moir added all the features to the program to allow both standard and narrow gauge operations.

I'll bump this to Jim for comment about changing AAR codes.  Are you modeling 2 foot gauge?  Let us know if we can help with the narrow gauge stuff.

Have fun,

Mike C

June 23, 2015
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> Mark
I am using Protrak for my narrow gauge railroad and use the weights and
dimensions that are appropriate for the various cars in the era I am
modeling "World War I". Light and gross weights were a bit of a guess on
some cars as there wasn't a lot of data printed on the sides of many cars.
Fred Kaser

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June 23, 2015
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>My main thing is that my prototype is small.   Each carriage can carry no more than 24620lbs or 12.32 tons which is way smaller that any option that I could identify in the options avaliable.  

The bearing sizes and their capacities are based on AAR (Master Car Builders) practice and vary by the "Built Date" selected for the car.  (e.g. Three different sizes on A bearings, depending on whether one is before 1890, 1903 or 1920.)

Howard set me straight on this at the third ProTrak Weekend for his 1903 era.

 

It certainly would be an addition to the program (ProTrak) to add other capacities for narrow gage cars.  This is, if you selected "Narrow gage" for a car, the bearing-capacity dropdown would show relevant "gross weighs on rail".

Easy to code in.  I just need some advice on what the relevant gross weights are.

Thanks,

         Jim

June 24, 2015
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Thanks for the replies guys!

 

I have been putting together a sheet sheet to try and capture all information that I will need when it comes time to populate the various ProTak data bases etc 

I have tried to list all my prototype info of which lucky for me is (mostly) available and if I don't have it readily to hand I do have my prototype still running out of Belgrave Melbourne Australia.  Of course it has change quite a lot over the last 110 years but it is still there.

Luck me!

I could easily see myself becoming an Operations focused modeler which in the past I have never been.   Driving a train round and round without clear purpose become boring very very quickly.  Turning a model rail road into a real operations center is very appealing.

 

I have a spread sheet but it looks to me as though I am not allowed to have a xls attachment here.   I might be wrong but I am sure someone will let me know.

Regards from the other side of the world adn happy modelling

Mark

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