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The car float function
May 12, 2016
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Tonight's Update 331 makes changes to the car float function.   (The over-write issue I mentioned yesterday was corrected.)   There are no other changes today.

I will describe the use of the car float tomorrow.

                 Jim

May 13, 2016
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As you may know, ProTrak has two quite different "cars transported on water" functions, the "car ferry" and the "car float" functions. They differ on whether there are "trains on both sides". The ferry has trains on both sides (the ferry is part of the mainline). The "car float" acts like a customer, being fed by a train. Does that make sense?
 
The use of the car float has two options:
1) Cars can be put on the car float and then come back, just like for any other customer.
2) Or a car float can be taken off the railroad and put on a shelf. In which case the cars on that car float are de-activated. When a car float returns (is taken off the shelf and put back on the railroad) the cars are re-activated. This is of course a form of "fiddling".
 
Setting up a car float operation
 
1. Customer: A car float is a special form of customer. Use the "sidingname" datafield. Click the "Special" radio button, scroll down the list of special customer functions in the right-hand pane and double-click on "car float". Which then appears in the sidingname datafield.
 
Then, a new pane appears at the bottom, called "Car Float Bridge".  This pane has  a datafield for the car float's supposed destination ("the other side").
 
For example, you might enter "RVS50f" as the customer's sidingnumber, the "f" to remind you that this customer is a car float.
 
Then in the datafield "Destination siding number" you might enter RVS50t... the t being for "team" track.  "t" is recommended as any number of customers can have the same sidingnumber if the "spot" code is "t".
  
Click "OK" to save your new customer data.
   
2. Waybill: A car float waybill is much like any other waybill, except for one item.  As with any customer there are the origin and destination sidingnumbers.  However when you select the "car float" as a destination (or origin) siding the program does something.
 
An example: a shipment originates at FS-17. From the righthand pane select "FS-17".
 
The shipment travels on the car float.  From the righthand pane select "RVS50f" (the car float customer)... the program will change this to RVS50t (the car float destination).  This is correct.
 
Note that only the car float customer siding appears in the right-hand pane of possible customers (the car float "other side" does not.)
 
3.  Operation
 
The movements of the car float are reported on the "Exceptions", "Show cars by Zone" window.  If a zone has a car float customer, a "purple background" button "Report Car Float".
 
A car float "arrives" and "sails".  (Any one car float bridge customer can serve up to 40 floats.)  
 
You select the float #, then click "Arrives", and if that float has cars, those cars are moved to the car-float bridge customer.  
 
If you click "Sails" cars at car-float bridge customer are loaded onto the float.
 
When you click "Close" the "Show cars by Zone" window is updated and will show the cars being "On car float".
 
Arrive.  Sail.  Close.
 
 
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Outside of operations, when you click on the list of cars, cars on a car float will show their location as "On car float".
 
Cars on a car float are de-activated.  The cars are de-activated when the car float "sails" and are re-activated when the car float "arrives".
 
OK?
                Jim
May 13, 2016
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>right-hand pane and double-click on "car float".<

Jim,

For clarity the options under Special are #24 Car float dock and #25 Cars placed in Drawer Storage.  Does it matter which I choose?

thanks

Joe

May 14, 2016
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Joe,

>For clarity the options under Special are #24 Car float dock and #25 Cars placed in Drawer Storage.  Does it matter which I choose?

They have the same effect.  Both options 24 and 25 enter "car float" into the sidingname datafield, and "Car Float" into the customer name.

The label "car float" is what triggers car-float activity in ProTrak.

 

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When I wrote those "hints" 24 was to be the choice, and 25 was to be an explanation of what could happen.   Which is why 24 "Car Float Dock" has captial letters and is left adjusted to the other list items, and "cars placed in Drawer storage" has (mostly) lowercase letters and is inset to the right.   "Drawer" is capitalized because that word has a meaning in ProTrak - implying "fiddling".

OK?

               Jim

May 19, 2016
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Hi Jim,

I'm in process of setting up this car float (vs ferry) function.

I had set up the ferry function with a real yard, industries, trains in Sarnia, but a virtual yard, virtual local industries and virtual trains in Port Huron.  This worked well, but I had to run everything in PT at the end of a partial session to complete the work, as the engineer only did the Sarnia side.  The ferry remains in place, while I take the cars off by hand and place them in a cabinet.  I then collect the cars from the industries in Port Huron, reload the ferry and it is ready for the next  continuing session.  ie the Sarnia switcher empties the car float, does the classification, and is now ready to load the float for its return trip. A lot of this is timing, as the main thru trains arrive with new cars for the float, but I want them to have any available cars for their return to staging.  

It is the Walthers Car Float, with 3 tracks and holding as many as 17 short tank cars.  

Most of the west bound traffic is loads as part of the C&O secondary main across Ontario and Michigan to Ludington where it ran several big Lake Michigan Ferries, while eastbound it is returning empties in the potato trade  and mostly loads in the auto trade.  I have several generic industries, such as Mich Manufacturers, Mich Produce, Mich team track, Mich freight house, and To Lake Michigan Ferry, which allows me to send anything via the car float.

The previous ferry function also loads the car float by weight, so that the float doesn't flip over in heavy weather.

So, now I am trying to set up this new function.  

It appears that I can name the Customer in Sarnia "Car Float PM #10".  Will this cause any problems?

I have switched all existing WBs in Port Huron (PRT10 thru PRT15) to Sarnia (SAR15t), but have retained their original name (see above) and location as Port Huron, Michigan.  Will this be a problem?  Actually, I would prefer to retain the PRT designation for the traffic, even if it is "PRT15t".  Would this necessitate a new virtual train to move the cars off the car float to the PRT15t customer??

I think I should set up a separate train for the car float customer in Sarnia, as cars would otherwise be mixed in with all the traffic going to the many industries that I have in Sarnia.

I have set up blocking for the float according to industry at the "t" customer.  This makes sense, but may not accord with weight on the ferry, as each team track customer is loaded/unloaded according to the blocking.  Is this right?

On the customer screen, how does "Which car float is at bridge" work?  If I want to run the same  float (PM #10) three times per day (Or as many times as necessary to move the traffic), how do I do this?  Also, what is the effect of "no car float at bridge" and why is the float 1 thru 40 always "empty" at the bridge?  Is it possible to load the returning traffic at the "t" customer first, then arrive at the bridge with cars? Currently, I have 15 cars at the "t" customer ready to return, and an additional 7 that will take 24 hours or 48 hours before completing their unloading.  There is only one currently in the Sarnia Yard and 5 more unloaded at Sarnia customers destined for the car float, but there are several coming in on the next train.

Thanks

John

May 20, 2016
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What should be used for the "switching train" on the customer screen for the "t" customers served by the car float?

John

May 21, 2016
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John asked:

>What should be used for the "switching train" on the customer screen for the "t" customers served by the car float?

Reading through your description, and questions, it really sounds to me like you should continue to use the "ferry' function.

The "car float" function can be thought of as being a simplified "ferry" without all the details "on the other side".  

The "t" customers are "on the other side" and have no switching train.

The car float does not know about weight, or loading in order.

             Jim

May 21, 2016
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John asked:

>On the customer screen, how does "Which car float is at bridge" work?  If I want to run the same  float (PM #10) three times per day (Or as many times as necessary to move the traffic), how do I do this? 

Use "car float #1", then for the second trip "car float #2", then for third trip "car float #3".  

The program allows for up to a total of 40 (somewhat arbitrarily) car-floats, each with its own cars on board.

                    Jim

May 21, 2016
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John asked:

>On the customer screen, how does "Which car float is at bridge" work? 

There are up to 40 car floats available.   Each can have cars loaded, or no cars loaded.

1.  Select a float.   ProTrak will then tell you how many cars are on that car float.

2.  If those are the cars you want to return to the railroad (fiddle back on), then click "Arrive".   The cars will be placed at the car float bridge customer (unloaded from that car float).

3.  If you do not want to return those cars, but rather you want to move cars off the railroad, select another car float that has no cars.

Click Arrive.   Nothing will happen (as there no cars arriving).

Click Sail.  The cars at the car float bridge customer (railroad side) are loaded onto the car float.

Click "Close", the display of the listing of cars at that >zone< is updated/refreshed.

 

OK?

               Jim

May 21, 2016
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Ah, I think I get it.  It's like staging, whatever goes on float #1 in the session comes back unloaded/reloaded whenever I choose float #1 to arrive again.  It's like taking float #1 off the layout and storing it underneath out of sight.  I could actually return the float and all the cars 3 days later if I chose that option, while still running other ferries at days one and two, or running four different ferries each 24 hours.

i think you are right, I'm going to maintain the ferry methodology.

thanks John 

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